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OBAMA IS TREADING ON DANGEROUS WATERS
Published on April 8, 2011 By Bahu Virupaksha In Current Events

Libya was  the last major territory to be seized by the Roman empire and the first to escape from its clutches along with Parthia. The Libyans faught long and hard against the Italians when they conquered the desert land in the 1930's. The fact is that Col Qaddaffi who was recently rehabilitated in the affections of Western powers after spending more than 30 years as an international paraiah is not a military and political pushover. In spite of the Lokerbee bombing he was able to get the main conspirator freed from a Scottish prison during the Labour regime because of the vast oil revenues that he holds.

The USA together with France has imposed a no-fly zone over Libya. UInder the pretext of enforcing a no-fly zone NATO jets are bombing Libyan government and civilian positions. A no-fly zone would aanly mean that if case the Libyan airforce attempts to land in rebel held areas, then NATO can enforce compliance of the UN resolution 1973. The Obama Administration and Sarkozy's France have chosen to interpret this resolution as a mandate to intervene and impose regime change in Libya: regime change is not implied in the UN resolution. On the first day of baobing US rained 110 Tomahawk missiles on Libya and UIS B-52 bombers dropped 45 1000 kilo bombs in the first day itself. Was such a massive attack justified? Is this not a savage and brutal act of war against unarmed civilians? Already in Iraq and Afghanistan, US intervention has caused untold suffering and there is no count of the casulities. What makes the matter even worse is that the war heads carried depleted uranium warheads making these attacks a nuclear attack on civilian target violating all lawa of civilised warfare.

The US, UK and France are keen to see the oil rich region around Bengazi is brought undetr direct rebel control. Like Chablis in Iraq, the US has propped up a quisling called Khalifa Heftir,a "CIA asset" of many years. It seems that the USA will not learn a lesson from its own recent history. The town of Sirte, the tribal area from which Col Qaddaffi come has borne the brunt of the bombing and there is just no military or political justification for this. The ragtag rebel troops are being finnced by the Saudis and the brutal Saudi regime is being hailed as an exemplar of democracy. Even the US Admiral James Stavridis has admiotted in Congress that the rebels are being infiltrated by Al Qaeda elements. It appears that the US policy is to strengthen the forces that are bent on destablaising the region. Though the Libyan Government assets of nearly 45 billion US $ have been frozen by the Western Governments, the so-called "interim transitional national council" has been permitted to acess these funds which are being used to fiance the NATO bombing of Libya. So we have Libyan money being used to kill Libyans in their own land.

The po;icy of Obama is bound to fail. USA cannot afford another long tern engagement in the deserts of Libya and the longer the war and rsistance continues the easier it would be for Col Qaddaffi to cling on to power.


Comments (Page 1)
on Apr 08, 2011

What makes the matter even worse is that the war heads carried depleted uranium warheads making these attacks a nuclear attack on civilian target violating all lawa of civilised warfare.

WRONG.  Depleted Uranium is not nuclear.  it is just a very heavy form of lead.  It is deadly, but only because of the weight of the projectiles.

Your flippant remark about Iran and Afghanistan is stupid.  If I kill a man going on a shooting rampage, I have killed a man.  One for me.  But how many lives did I save by doing so?  You look at the one death as the totality of the situation, ignoring all the other victims and the future potential victims.

As for libya, you are partially right. France and the UK did indeed make it a regime change, and Obama joined in reluctantly (after the amazon trio forced him to).  However it is not a "France and USA" operation.  Perhaps if it was, Ghadhafy would be gone already, but the hesitation of all the allies in the matter ensured it would just be a bloody civil war that Ghadhafy will probably win.  At the very least, many more are going to die because of the lack of leadership.

When it came time to fish or cut bait, Obama went golfing.  Since he missed the window of opportunity, the next best action was no action.

on Apr 09, 2011

Dr Guy
Depleted Uranium is not nuclear. it is just a very heavy form of lead. It is deadly, but only because of the weight of the projectiles

The European Parliament has called for a moratorium on the use of the weapons containing depelted uranium. We need not take this call seriously, as the very same European Parliament has armies which deploy such weapons. Again we have a radical "humane" posture for public consumption and a different reality.

on Apr 09, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha
as the very same European Parliament has armies which deploy such weapons.

 

The European Parliament has no armies. They can ask their member states for them, but you can be sure they already know the answer to that request before they even make it public. If the member states do not want to do something they just tell the European Parliament to take a hike, in the matter of foreign affairs anyway..

on Apr 11, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha
The European Parliament has called for a moratorium on the use of the weapons containing depelted uranium.

They have also called for a moratorium on CO2 which is an essential gas of life to this planet.  Stupid people call for stupid things.  That does not mean we have to be stupid lemmings and follow the idiots over the cliff.

on Apr 12, 2011

LOL, another great article by the misguided, one-sided defender of the poor innocent Muslims. God forbid he pointed out the atrocities being done by the same people he defends.

on Apr 12, 2011

To be perfectly honest I don't think we should be in there at all. If these rebels want to fight Libya's leader and they are out-numbered and out-gunned then they are the idiots. Not my problem. I'm tired of wasting out money and resources and sending our brave soldiers to die for a bunch of ingrates and to be criticized by those who do nothing to better this world. I say if people are suffering and want out help then send a legitimate letter asking for our help so that when the rest of the world wants to criticize our involvement we at least have a legit reason for being involved.

on Apr 13, 2011

LOL, another great article by the misguided, one-sided defender of the poor innocent Muslims. God forbid he pointed out the atrocities being done by the same people he defends.

The rebels in fact have been indulging in ethnic cleansing in their territories. In fact they suumarily excecuted 6 policemen whose only fault was that they belonged to arival clan. A tribal war has broken out and a half crazed French "philosopher" levy is selling it a a great democtatic upsurge and his President, knowing that he will be soundly defeated in the first round of presidential election wants to look BRAVE and I suppose killing Arabs is his way of declaring to the world what a man he is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

on Apr 15, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha: Good article!

                It is amazing that a no fly zone only applies to the defenders who are trying to defend their homeland … allowing the aggressors free bombing privileges, go figure. I do not understand why it is difficult to understand that OIL is the key … just as it was in Iraq. Amazing how capitalism works in the third world.

Doc is correct about the depleted uranium and the only reason it would be opposed is because it is excellent for penetrating hardened targets ... too efficient, go figure.

Your flippant remark about Iran and Afghanistan is stupid. If I kill a man going on a shooting rampage, I have killed a man. One for me. But how many lives did I save by doing so? You look at the one death as the totality of the situation, ignoring all the other victims and the future potential victims.

                Since when does the truth become flippant? No matter what altruistic excuses you believe, the truth of the matter is that with our supper accurate weaponry (to within a few yards) … we have slaughtered over half a million Iraqi citizens … a pretty steep price to pay for the 9/11 atrocities committed by the Saudis and others.  Who do you think inhabit the Middle East … hundreds of million jihadists? Has it ever occurred to you that the vast majority just want a civil existence?

LOL, another great article by the misguided, one-sided defender of the poor innocent Muslims. God forbid he pointed out the atrocities being done by the same people he defends.

CharlesCS is prone to think highly of himself as evidenced by this comment. What part of poor innocent Muslim is difficult to understand?  There is more than one way to look at atrocities, but of course only America is innocent and so self-righteous as to dictate to the world at large … this is how it is going to be, period.

on Apr 18, 2011

we have slaughtered over half a million Iraqi citizens … a pretty steep price to pay for the 9/11 atrocities committed by the Saudis and others. Who do you think inhabit the Middle East … hundreds of million jihadists? Has it ever occurred to you that the vast majority just want a civil existence?

Thank you so much for standing up for the truth. So difficult in these trying days of Obama. Now the USA is looking for an exit strategyu in Libya-- a safe haven for Qaddaffi. A country that has not sdigned the International Covention on War Crimes. THE USA is one such country and so can play the perfect host to the likes of Qaddaffi. More than a few hundred men and womwen have been killed in the attacks so far.

on Apr 18, 2011

BoobzTwo
we have slaughtered over half a million Iraqi citizens

Citations please?  You do understand you just accused the US of killing 2% of the Iraqi population - a contention not made by any reputable person or organization on this planet.  The truth is a harsh mistress, and you have failed her.

There is no truth in his statement as I made no judgement call whether it was justified or not.  I merely stated factually that saying I killed one person as the totality of the calamity is a lie.  The person I killed had already killed others.  Those deaths were ignored.  Also ignored was the possibility of more deaths given past proven behavior.  Speculative, yes.  but on a much sounder footing than your bizarre claim.

BoobzTwo
Who do you think inhabit the Middle East … hundreds of million jihadists? Has it ever occurred to you that the vast majority just want a civil existence?

Apparently you think they are just a bunch of doves cooing at the pretty colors when IEDs meet flesh.

on Apr 18, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha
Thank you so much for standing up for the truth.

Unfortunately there is no truth in either your statement or her lame rebuttal.  If you want to debate truth, then state it.  Do not put up the latest propaganda by Iran and Jihadists and claim that is truth.  500,000 bodies are hard to hide even in a country the size of Iraq (as evidence, you have but to look at the bodies of Saddam's victims already uncovered).

If you want to be taken seriously, stop writing like a fool.

on Apr 19, 2011

If you want to be taken seriously, stop writing like a fool.

I have not claimed the figure of 500,000 killed. Now in Iraq, the number killed after the US led invasion is close to 200,000 anf the reputed journal Lancet has pegged the figure even higher. We may never know the true figure just as we may not know the quantum of human beings killed by the Germans during World War II. Dark deeds have a habit of staying hidden.

In any even what did USA gain from its ill begotten invasion: just body bags, international condemnation, an economy in deep recession and a finacial meltdown.

In Libya, the USA claimed to ber protecting civilain ;ives when in reality it is only uising its superior air force to intevene and separate the oil rich parts of Pibya just as the West did in Soutnern Sudan.

 

on Apr 19, 2011

Just as I predicted, the Western Democracies led by USA, UK and France are now contemplating sending military advisors. This is the first sure sign that the merciless air raids have not succeeded and there is now quiet talk in the corridors of power of further "escalation". I think the Roman generals who faught in the desert sands wille amused by all this.

on Apr 19, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha
I have not claimed the figure of 500,000 killed.

BoobzTwo
we have slaughtered over half a million Iraqi citizens

Bahu Virupaksha
Thank you so much for standing up for the truth.

Um....yes you did.  You congratulated her for "standing up for the truth" AFTER she said we slaughtered over half a million iraqi citizens.  Now half a million may not be 500,000 in India (what numbering system do you use?), but it does in America.

Bahu Virupaksha
anf the reputed journal Lancet

Lancet is not a reputable journal.  Even your claim that 500,000 is not half a million is more accurate and truthful than that rag.

Bahu Virupaksha
Dark deeds have a habit of staying hidden.

Yes, perfectly understandable since we all know that Saddam killed no one before the invasion.  You are pathetic in your spin attempts.

Bahu Virupaksha
In any even what did USA gain from its ill begotten

And about 25 million Iraqis that are alive today and not in fear of Saddam.  Oops!  Sorry, did not mean to burst your delusion bubble with facts.  ASK THEM - then get back to us.

Bahu Virupaksha
In Libya, the USA claimed to ber protecting civilain ;ives when in reality it is only uising its superior air force to intevene and separate the oil rich parts of Pibya just as the West did in Soutnern Sudan.

As much as I would like to agree with you, I have to go with the reality and truth - France has been the ring leader of this debacle from the get go.  The US did nothing except stumble around and kill civilians AND soldiers.  It was not a no fly zone.  It was a no Ghadhafy zone.

Bahu Virupaksha
Just as I predicted, the Western Democracies led by USA, UK and France

While that is a popular myth coming from Iran and the Arab world, having at least one citation from a source with no pony in the show would be helpful.  Just because you say it does not make it true no matter how much you want to believe it to be so.

Personally, I would not be surprised.  But again, it is not the US leading this fight.  It is the French and British and for the very lie that you push on why we got into Iraq (although to your credit, you did acknowledge):

Bahu Virupaksha
In any even what did USA gain

That nothing was taken after all the lies.

on Apr 20, 2011

As much as I would like to agree with you, I have to go with the reality and truth - France has been the ring leader of this debacle from the get go. The US did nothing except stumble around and kill civilians AND soldiers. It was not a no fly zone. It was a no Ghadhafy zone
And about 25 million Iraqis that are alive today and not in fear of Saddam. Oops! Sorry, did not mean to burst your delusion bubble with facts. ASK THEM - then get back to us.
Yes, perfectly understandable since we all know that Saddam killed no one before the invasion. You are pathetic in your spin attempts.
Lancet is not a reputable journal.

Lancet and Nature are generally regarded with great respect.

There are nemerous instances--mahamoudiya and again the case of the helicopter firing in Baghdad--both seem to me to be dark deeds. And Abu Gharaib need not be brought out as even the US acknowledges that the whole thing wasd a mess. In war dark deeds are done and like the Ahtenians whose historian Thucydides acknowleded the "dark deeds" let us admit that crime and war go hand in hand.

In Iraq the USA is seem as a hated occupying armey as in Afghanistan. There is not getting around that.

Why not say bluntly that the two unpopular presidents are using Libya to boost their electoral chjamces. It is early days as far as Obama is concerned, but that Sarkozy fellow will lose and he will  be soundly defeated.

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