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OBAMA IS TREADING ON DANGEROUS WATERS
Published on April 8, 2011 By Bahu Virupaksha In Current Events

Libya was  the last major territory to be seized by the Roman empire and the first to escape from its clutches along with Parthia. The Libyans faught long and hard against the Italians when they conquered the desert land in the 1930's. The fact is that Col Qaddaffi who was recently rehabilitated in the affections of Western powers after spending more than 30 years as an international paraiah is not a military and political pushover. In spite of the Lokerbee bombing he was able to get the main conspirator freed from a Scottish prison during the Labour regime because of the vast oil revenues that he holds.

The USA together with France has imposed a no-fly zone over Libya. UInder the pretext of enforcing a no-fly zone NATO jets are bombing Libyan government and civilian positions. A no-fly zone would aanly mean that if case the Libyan airforce attempts to land in rebel held areas, then NATO can enforce compliance of the UN resolution 1973. The Obama Administration and Sarkozy's France have chosen to interpret this resolution as a mandate to intervene and impose regime change in Libya: regime change is not implied in the UN resolution. On the first day of baobing US rained 110 Tomahawk missiles on Libya and UIS B-52 bombers dropped 45 1000 kilo bombs in the first day itself. Was such a massive attack justified? Is this not a savage and brutal act of war against unarmed civilians? Already in Iraq and Afghanistan, US intervention has caused untold suffering and there is no count of the casulities. What makes the matter even worse is that the war heads carried depleted uranium warheads making these attacks a nuclear attack on civilian target violating all lawa of civilised warfare.

The US, UK and France are keen to see the oil rich region around Bengazi is brought undetr direct rebel control. Like Chablis in Iraq, the US has propped up a quisling called Khalifa Heftir,a "CIA asset" of many years. It seems that the USA will not learn a lesson from its own recent history. The town of Sirte, the tribal area from which Col Qaddaffi come has borne the brunt of the bombing and there is just no military or political justification for this. The ragtag rebel troops are being finnced by the Saudis and the brutal Saudi regime is being hailed as an exemplar of democracy. Even the US Admiral James Stavridis has admiotted in Congress that the rebels are being infiltrated by Al Qaeda elements. It appears that the US policy is to strengthen the forces that are bent on destablaising the region. Though the Libyan Government assets of nearly 45 billion US $ have been frozen by the Western Governments, the so-called "interim transitional national council" has been permitted to acess these funds which are being used to fiance the NATO bombing of Libya. So we have Libyan money being used to kill Libyans in their own land.

The po;icy of Obama is bound to fail. USA cannot afford another long tern engagement in the deserts of Libya and the longer the war and rsistance continues the easier it would be for Col Qaddaffi to cling on to power.


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on Apr 27, 2011

BoobzTwo
Bahu said “The US occupation and actions in Iraq go against the very grain of peaceful international behavior” … and your response was “No, that is what nations do when provoked”. Can you really be that brainwashed after 8 years? Oh that’s right; you believe this was just a continuation of Desert Storm to finish what Bush1 started … so that would be 20 years for you to have reconsidered.

It seems you are the one brainwashed.  Nice to throw you net of aspersions when you cannot refute the facts.  I read this far and decided the rest of your response was just a mindless diatribe bereft of facts since you cannot even get that one correct.  I do learn, and I do read and I do think.  3 qualities your post makes you appear to be lacking.

Bahu Virupaksha
Iraq began to unravel only fter the US led invasion and USA has encouraged a revanchist Shia ideology and identity based politics which has only helped Syria to extend its influence in the region.

That statement is why you cannot be taken seriously as anything other than a puppet to the voices that hate america.  I understand in your puppetdom that a Saddam taken life is worthless, while a US taken life is priceless.  But that is not the real world.  Just your mindless talking points being respewed.  One day you may wake up, but I doubt it.  You are too far gone to form your own rational thought without outsiders putting them there.

on Apr 27, 2011

If you want the truth then search it out. If much of what you know has been dictated to you by others then you aren’t really interested in the truth after all.

I wonder if those Iraqis are going to stop provoking us so we won't have to keep shooting them. If nothing else, we should make the mercy call after 8 years of terror, come on. The majority of the happenings I have seen for several years now have been about U.S. target practice and the like. I do not think they need our people shooting their people for them … yea, one big turkey shoot. Why is it that only Americans are allowed to be patriotic?

It is amazing that when governments promote their cases against state terrorist attacks, they describe the most elaborate feats with military timing, precision and munitions. Things like daring thefts and the mastery of large modern aircraft and perfect timing and coordination with the Department of Defense and company. They describe Daring-do usually only found on ‘Mission Impossible’ (which never was) or in documentations of covert CIA and military subversions, extortions, terrorism and assassinations, go figure. The same applies to Spain and England too; masterful timing and execution with mil-spec explosives. Check out the timelines yourself. Check out the policies that were whisked into place after all these events. The blow to our civil and human liberties came in the name of the Patriot Act and there is no end in sight that I can see. No shouts of Allah Akbar or other fanfare, strange that. Ever ask yourselves why the few sporadic attacks are bandied about from one country to another. I do not think they have run out of money or courage or activists or enemies, and I don’t think they have run low on munitions or their infamous logistics support or their military precision and timing … do you? So … where are they I wonder.

Doc: Amazing how you whisk through the entire response (which I explained … I used exact quotes) and classified it as BS and then right to the point of slander. Yes you should be well acquainted with the word aspersion since that is all you seem capable of lately. Doc, I am stunned … you don’t take me seriously … I am crushed.

on Apr 27, 2011

Dr Guy
I am sure in your state controlled mindset

How does a free and democratic country like America effect total (political, social and economic) regime change in a country that has lived under harsh socialism throughout their history? It is all quite fundamental my good man Watson, purely academic. It is done in exactly the same manner the socialists use to transform other governments and people into ideological bedfellows … propaganda, covert ops and WAR.

The Art of War says all efforts should be made to preserve the infrastructure of a vastly inferior enemy … but the economics of war dictate otherwise and the $$$’s always wins. There is nothing to be gained by talking to say Doc over “American Imperialism” any more than talking about “conspiracy theories” because he does not seem to believe their possibility, whatever. It is strange that the conspiracy is always against the government, the most truthful entity in America, go figure.  Sooo … if one is prone to believe everything the state has to say, question none of it and pugnaciously attack everyone else’s thoughts … well I feel safe in reiterating that this person has a “state controlled mindset”.

on Apr 28, 2011

How does a free and democratic country like America effect total (political, social and economic) regime change in a country that has lived under harsh socialism throughout their history? It is all quite fundamental my good man Watson, purely academic. It is done in exactly the same manner the socialists use to transform other governments and people into ideological bedfellows … propaganda, covert ops and WAR.

The corporate control over the media is so powerful in the USA that news agencies like Fox give freedom of the media a very bad name. Also the USA  has what is called embedded " journalists who amnufacture a spurious consensus by publ;ishbing handout from the state departmetn of the White House. Just see Al Jazeerra has crerated a firestorm in the misddle east by its effective exposure of the corruption and oppression but unfortunatrely the American media is enamoured of its own servitude to the Corporates and men like yopu are mindless in your mustaken belief that you have a free pressw. Grow up.

on Apr 28, 2011

How does a free and democratic country like America effect total (political, social and economic) regime change in a country that has lived under harsh socialism throughout their history? It is all quite fundamental my good man Watson, purely academic. It is done in exactly the same manner the socialists use to transform other governments and people into ideological bedfellows … propaganda, covert ops and WAR.

The corporate control over the media is so powerful in the USA that news agencies like Fox give freedom of the media a very bad name. Also the USA  has what is called embedded " journalists who amnufacture a spurious consensus by publ;ishbing handout from the state departmetn of the White House. Just see Al Jazeerra has crerated a firestorm in the misddle east by its effective exposure of the corruption and oppression but unfortunatrely the American media is enamoured of its own servitude to the Corporates and men like yopu are mindless in your mustaken belief that you have a free pressw. Grow up.

on Apr 28, 2011

BoobzTwo
If you want the truth then search it out. If much of what you know has been dictated to you by others then you aren’t really interested in the truth after all.

Doctor - heal thyself!  And after you have, come back to discuss the issues.  Until then, parrot your handlers, I shall not read or comment on stupidity.

on Apr 28, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha
The corporate control over the media is so powerful in the USA that news agencies like Fox give freedom of the media a very bad name.

now you are just being ignorant.  But I guess you will clutch at straws.  Even when the country is a burnt out cinder, you can still trot out your talking points and sound bytes, that when closely analyzed, are nonsensical.

Bahu Virupaksha
and men like yopu are mindless in your mustaken belief that you have a free pressw. Grow up.

yes, throw around terms you are totally clueless on.  While you are restricted from voicing any opinion you want in your country (not politically correct after all), we will continue to enjoy REAL freedom that escapes one as small minded as you.  Which means we will hate some of what is said, and cheer other things.  But that is what freedom is all about - when you DEFEND what you do not like because it IS free speech.

You are far too immature to even understand your naivete', and your final admonition to "grow up" is a pathetic attempt to elevate yourself into the adult community.  I would tell you the same, except it would be a waste of words considering your inability to learn or to hold a cognizant original thought.

on Apr 28, 2011

pathetic attempt to elevate yourself into the adult community. I would tell you the same, except it would be a waste of words considering your inability to learn or to hold a cognizant original thought

I can answer an educatred reasoned fact based argument but ideologfical gibberish is not my cup of tea.

on Apr 29, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha: I warned you what was coming your way and what to expect from people like the Doc here. They will not allow you to talk about your article and they will refute everything you say as inaccurate and they will insult you at every opportunity. It will not matter what you say or want to discuss, they will hijack your article and dance you around with a bunch of nonsense and distractions. This is the same ploy used to shut down websites and such, go figure. At first, I thought it was just key words and specific phrases that promoted this nonsense, but soon realized that it is also a personal attack mechanism against specific people with no regard to article content. The truth of the matter is that you have already won the argument when they are driven to insults and senseless pontification.

Doc, I finally got you figured out. You are just a cantankerous fool who believes everyone who doesn’t fit into your ideological sphere is an uninformed idiot lacking minimal intelligence and worthy of nothing besides insults and libels. Must be so because that is all you do now … Actual, intelligent people know how to discuss things even things they disagree about and they do it in a manner that doesn’t require defamations and the like. If you do not agree with someone’s point of view, it can easily be expressed without the use of slurs and slanders. I would suppose one would have to actually make a mistake to begin to understand the fallacy of closed mindedness but then I guess you are still waiting for yours, go figure.

on Apr 29, 2011

Bahu Virupaksha: I warned you what was coming your way and what to expect from people like the Doc here. They will not allow you to talk about your article and they will refute everything you say as inaccurate and they will insult you at every opportunity. It will not matter what you say or want to discuss, they will hijack your article and dance you around with a bunch of nonsense and distractions

Once again a very big Mahalo to you. One of the nice things about blogging is that you meet up with people on the way who seem to understand. Yes, I do find the stilted personal attacks and the rash slew of rants a little disconcerting but I take it as part of the game. I do not respond in kind primarily because as you put it when you have facts and reasoned arguments you do not need to resort to high pitched noises.

on May 01, 2011

Early this morning NATO attacked the personal residence of Col Qaddaffi and killed his son and 3 grandchildren. This kind of wanton acts of targetted assasinations is not only against International Law but goes well beyond what the No Fly zone envisaged. The Arabs who backed NATO over the no fly zone have lost all cerdibility and USA has shown along with NATO to be a gun slinger for oil and other interests. When has killing the Head of State and his family become part of a No Fly zone policy. THe WEstern countries are using a dometic tribal problem to extend their stranglehold over an Islamic country  and there will be consequences.

on May 01, 2011

Bahu - personally, I do not follow the Middle East problems much anymore because the False Flag incident our government calls 9/11 has pretty much sealed their fate. Until the extreme profitability of war is properly vetted and dealt with, there will be no end. As a point to consider, the world is abundant with dictators and Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi were/are not the worst. It doesn’t make sense why our benevolence is being force fed in that area of the world unless one considers profit margins and oil … and these massacres throughout the region are somehow justified based on the 9/11 conspiracy. 10 years ago, the Middle East was a place where a lot of oil was coming from … and now look at it.

You can swap insults with the know-it-alls to your heart’s content, but headway will not be made until the American Government is forced to acquiesce to its involvement in 9/11. When the Iron Curtain fell, it began a new era in the manipulation of the people where communism was eventually replaced with radical Islam after all, we must maintain the extremely lucrative business war affords those capable of such cruelty and selfishness. It is all so frustrating. Is it actually possible for the hardheads to believe that we are somehow helping those people by contaminating their culture with all that is wrong with our own and calling it freedom and democracy? Hitler did much of the same thing our government has been doing for many years and to many countries and he was considered a madman … but of course, all we want is to force feed what we think is best for them because only we are capable of making this determination, how quaint is that?

Yes there will indead be consequences ... there already are.

on Jun 25, 2011

NATO bombing of civilians in Tripoli killing a large number of children and women has led the world to question the wisdom of allowing the US and its NATO allies to continue with its policy of aggression against Libya. In any event Col Gadaffi has said and we can beleive him that a UN mandaded election wille accepted. NATO seems to enjoy its run over Tripoli killing people. In any case is Libya in the North Atlantic. A Treaty designed to protect the Europeans from Soviet expansion is now being used to kill Arabs and Asians belonging to Asia and Africa. This cannot be accepted. Unfortunately by constantly harping on the Islamic identy, the Asians and Africans are actually leaving the world free for Anglo-Saxon hegemony.

on Jun 26, 2011

An interesting development

 

on May 06, 2012

Bahu Virupaksha
Why not say bluntly that the two unpopular presidents are using Libya to boost their electoral chjamces. It is early days as far as Obama is concerned, but that Sarkozy fellow will lose and he will be soundly defeated.

Here again I correctly predicted more than a year back that Sarkozy will be defeated. This too at a time when all Western media ans Intelligence agencies were telling the world in their self delusional manner that Sarkozy will be breeze into the elyse palace.

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