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A LESSON FROM HISTORY
Published on January 11, 2006 By Bahu Virupaksha In History
It has become fashionable to call the USA an empire. Whatever the term may mean to radicals and conservatives the fact remains the both groups do not see the present international overreach of the USA as imperial. I have some trouble accepting such generalities because they obcure certain hard ground realities. A better mway of phrasing the question would be: Does the USA have the stamina to be an imperial hegemon of the 21st century. With the war in IRAQ going nowhere and no exit strategy in sight, the daily body count increasing to catatrophic levels and the public acceptance level of Bush and his Bushmen decling by the day, a look at the history of the USA is in order. Consider the following points made by Niall [pronounced Niel] Ferguson in his Colossus:The Rise and Fall of the American Empire:

Impressive military success
A flawed assessment of local sentiment
strategy of limited war and gradual escalation of forces
domestic turmoil over the unpopular and nasty war
premature political settlement
declare victory and withdaw

Sounds familiar. No we are not speaking of the Vietnam War. Afterall that war has still searing scars left to heal. We are referring to a much older war, one that is barely remembered.

In 1898 American forces won a striking victory over Spain.The pretext for the war, like the WMD in the case of Iraq, was the accidental explosion in the battleship Maine. How could Spain be responsible for the explosion, is any body's guess. Mckinley, the then President spoke in words that would credit Bush and the Bushmen:

I walked the floor of the White House night after night until midnight..
..I went down on my knees and prayed Almighty God for light and guidance
..and light came..(1) We could not give them back to Spain(2) That we could not
turn them over to France or Germany our commercial rivals in the orient (3) They are unfit to govern
themselves(%) There is nothing left to sdo but educate, civilise and Christianize the Fillipinos...

Thus the evangelical rhetoric of Bush II has precedents in US history.

The fact that the USA completely underestimated the Resistance led by Emilio Aguinaldo. The War to "pacify" Phillipines was a costlt war and American tactics in the Phillipines bears recall of what is happening in Iraq; Read what the General officer Commanding of the US Forces in the Phillipines, General Jacob Smith ordered his men:

"I wish you kill and burn the more you kill and the more you burn the better you will please me... I want all persons killed who are capable of bearing arms. Max Boot The Savage Wars of Peace: Small Wars and the Rise of American Power, New York 2002. pp.120.

The point is that the rhetoric of freedom, civilization and democracy is only a smokescreen for what was an aggressive war based on perceived self interest. The Iraq war is no different."

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on Jan 20, 2006
Although, I must say that US might has made a lot of right in the last 100 years. This would be an awfully different world without it.


Yes it would. 200,000 people wouldn't have died in a civil war in Guatemala. Salvador Allende wouldn't have died on Sept. 11, 1973. Augusto Pinochet would never have become President of Chile.
on Jan 21, 2006
on Jan 21, 2006
Yes it would. 200,000 people wouldn't have died in a civil war in Guatemala.
Yes it would. 200,000 people wouldn't have died in a civil war in Guatemala.
---latour999

And millions upon millions in Europe (and who knows where else) would either still be held under the thumb of the Austro-Hungarian powers, or would be speaking German and saluting with a stiff arm to statues of Hitler bedecked with swastika flags. Probably the former, since it was the US infusion of fresh troops that finally broke the deadlock in WWI.
Imperial Japan would still be the dominant power in Asia. South Korea would not exist and neither would Taiwan.

Should I continue?

Blame us for whatever you wish. The good we've done by far outweighs whatever so-called "evils" you and your kind may wish to focus on, latour.
on Jan 21, 2006
One should be realistic. Viernam was a defeat in more ways than one. It may have been a self inflicted defeat. "fighting with one arm tird" as they said but even so a defeat. Of course, the Vietnamese lost more men but victory and defeat are not settled lke base ball matches on the basis of a bidy count score card. Rather they are assessed on the basis of the objectives for which the power went to war in the first place. Aferall war is only politics by different means.


Bahu, I think I can answer most of this comment if you follow the thread of this article of mine:


https://forums.joeuser.com/Forums.aspx?ForumID=3&AID=98371#770363

I'd be interested to hear your opinions.
on Jan 21, 2006
And latour, I just want to add a little coda to my reply above:

I was only thinking in terms of military actions in the last 100 years.
I didn't even mention humanitarian aid; how many hundreds of billions (trillions?) of dollars have been sent from America over the years to help with disasters and disease?
Untold millions (billions?) of tons of supplies, foodstuffs and medicines sent off to Third World and other countries in need, trying to make at least marginally better the lives of hundreds of millions over the years.

Oh yes, America is such a baaaad place, latour, never doing any good in the world, only evil.
Keep telling yourself that, but it'll only play in your little clique of America-bashers.
I've said it before, and I WILL say it again, as often as necessary:

America may not be perfect, but I absolutely shudder to think what the world would be like without us.
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