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The implications of the UN Resolution
Published on August 14, 2006 By Bahu Virupaksha In Politics
Israel's stated objectives in the just concluded war against Lebanon was (a) degrade the military capability of the Hizbollah and (2) secure the release of the two soldiers captured in the run up to the conflict five weeks ago. After launching a most savage and unrestrained attack on the civilian population of Souther Lebanon, Beirut and Tyre along with Sidon Isreal has had to concede defaeat in that both these objectives reamined beyound realisation. Of course, this has not been a victory for Hizbollah, but it has eemerged from the war relatively stronger and its political legitimacy enhanced by the ferocious manner in which its fighters took on the Israeli Defence Force. The dream of the Olmert regime of using the so called war on terror in order to receate a "new middle east" remains a destant chimera. In fact, the UN must have included a punitive caluse to hold the Israeli cabinet particularly Olmert responsible for the unprecedented destruction of civilian infrastructure, lives and property. There was a sound case for war crimes trial against the Israeli leadership which was lost because thr US did not want a precedent that would be used against it especially that its own conduct of the Iraqi war has not been very civilised.

The Hizbollah has succeeded in exposing the myth of the invincibility of the IDF. A rag tag group of fighters were able to take on a modern army equipped with the top of the lone firepower by the USA. The neo conservative new order in the middle east has now been put into disarray . The IDF has been trained to fight the Arab Israeli wars of 1967 and 1973. It has not been able to prevail in the new kind of war theat the Hizbollah has waged. The Israeli forces in its push to the River Litani lost over 100 men and by Israeli standards this is a huge loss.

The Israeli strategy of using the "shock and awe" bombing raids of the USA has cost over 1200 lives in Lebanon. The new generation which had come of age in the 1990's has now been completely radicalised and the support for the Hisbollah is at an all time high in Lebanon. Instead of degrading the Hizbollah, the Israelis have actually upgraded the Hizbollah.

Resolution 1701 passed by the uN reflects the political support extended by the USa to Israel. The ground politcal and military realities are far different. The UNIFIL now has an extended mandate to monitor the ceasefire. It is yet to be seen if NATO forces are deployed south of the Litani river. Any deployment will have to recognise the fact that the Hizbollah retains theatre dominance in the southern part of Lebanon.

The resolution is vague over the issue of Shebaa Farms. But still let us hope peace will prevail.

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on Aug 15, 2006
-Who advanced into who's territory?
-Who has driven the enemy back 18+ kilometers to the Litani river?
-Who has greatly reduced Hezbollah's ability to attack Israel by creating an 18+
kilometer neutral area that will be occupied by international and Lebaneze
forces?
-Who has sent a message to the rest of the Arab terrorist world that if you attack
it you'll be met with extreme force?


Now, looking at Hezbollah's stated objectives. Hmmm, let's see. The 'political' prisoners that they demanded be released in exchange for the two Israeli soldiers are still sitting in an Israeli jail and will be, most likely forever.

And the Sheba farms? Well, still in Israel's possesion and most likely will stay that way
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HEY Booho, why don't you answer UBob? He made some pretty good points on blowing yours out of the water.
on Aug 15, 2006
Who advanced into who's territory?
-Who has driven the enemy back 18+ kilometers to the Litani river?
-Who has greatly reduced Hezbollah's ability to attack Israel by creating an 18+
kilometer neutral area that will be occupied by international and Lebaneze
forces?
-Who has sent a message to the rest of the Arab terrorist world that if you attack
it you'll be met with extreme force?


First, the capacity of the Hizbullah to strike has not been dented to the extent that the Israelis believe. And as fAr as their political profile is concerned Israel's misadventure has made the Hizbullah even more powerful. As far as the diisarming is concerned the Hizbullah Militia will be merged with the Lebanese Army with a Hizbullah as Minister for Defence. So the fact is that the Israelis have made it easier for the Hizbullah to operate.

Advaning upto the Litani River is hardly victory. The Israelis could not have held that territory. Remember that the Israeli army was pushed back in 2000.

As far as sending a message is concerned the Arab world is even more incensed at the behavior of the USA and its surrogate in the ME and therefore extreme force is not something the Arab world worries about. They will face it and inflict unacceptable damage on Israel and its allies.

Shebaa Farms will be returned it is only a matter of time and yes the Hizbollah wanted a prisoner swap and after a 33 day war it will happen.

The points made by UBoB reminds me of a proverb: One falls into muck and then start crowing that the Turban is clean.
on Aug 15, 2006
This is a great world, where people can go about posting articles and replies defending those who started the problem using the excuse of the excessive force of the defending side. Funny how being bad is a good thing and being good is a bad thing. You guys are doing a great job defending Hezbollah and Hamas.

I guess it doesn't matter that you use terrorist tactic, kill innocent people on purpose, preach the destruction of an entire country and constantly threaten those who are their allies, you are only defending what you believe in while the others are using excessive force cause they think they are more powerful than anyone.

Imp, I'm proud to know that you are working to became a citizen on this US, a country you speak so greatly of.

Oh, BTW, again you can't convert and recruit those who are already of that mentality. They did not decide over night to become Hezbollah, Hamas or Al-qaeda fighters, they were born to do this.
on Aug 15, 2006
To: UBoB

Who advanced into who's territory?


Who was suckered into walking into the worst PR disaster in the history of the IDF?

-Who has driven the enemy back 18+ kilometers to the Litani river?


Who has used 30,000 men and however many tanks and warplanes to progress less than 20 miles into a nation against which no war has been declared, has suffered casualties far higher than it was ever dreamed was possible, and still has not secured its stated aims?

Who has greatly reduced Hezbollah's ability to attack Israel by creating an 18+ kilometer neutral area that will be occupied by international and Lebaneze forces?


You think the French are going to 'secure' the border? The French? As for the Lebanese 'Army' - you might as well call it Hezbollah On Parade.

-Who has sent a message to the rest of the Arab terrorist world that if you attack it you'll be met with extreme force?


Have you actually followed any of this story, or are you simply making it up in the shape you'd like it to have as you go along? An entire generation of Lebanese youth has been recruited to Hezbollah's standard - it's standing in the Arab world has never been higher. And as for the two Israeli 'soldiers' still held by Hezbollah... Had they had the decency to die in the original firefight rather than allowing themselves to be captured, Israel would have had no justification for its invasion of Lebanon. If they aren't already dead, they deserve to be.
on Aug 15, 2006
Who was suckered into walking into the worst PR disaster in the history of the IDF?


Not too sure Israel cares about PR so this argument is pointless. No matter how much they tried to avoid civilian casualties, it was impossible and they knew it. But at least they tried, can't take that from them.

Who has used 30,000 men and however many tanks and warplanes to progress less than 20 miles into a nation against which no war has been declared, has suffered casualties far higher than it was ever dreamed was possible, and still has not secured its stated aims?


I guess everyone has their own way of seeing things.

You think the French are going to 'secure' the border? The French? As for the Lebanese 'Army' - you might as well call it Hezbollah On Parade.


Since when is France the only Int'l force out there? Hell, why would you even pick France of all countries? Did you post this just so this question would not be left out?

Have you actually followed any of this story, or are you simply making it up in the shape you'd like it to have as you go along? An entire generation of Lebanese youth has been recruited to Hezbollah's standard - it's standing in the Arab world has never been higher. And as for the two Israeli 'soldiers' still held by Hezbollah... Had they had the decency to die in the original firefight rather than allowing themselves to be captured, Israel would have had no justification for its invasion of Lebanon. If they aren't already dead, they deserve to be.


I guess Col is not the only one with rehtorics around here. I guess I will give you some as well. You can not recruit what was already part of something. These people did not become Hezbollah lovers and terrorist fighters over night. They were raised in this manner and their time would soon come. Cheering out loud for the Media does not make them new recruits, it only makes them noticeable.

Decency to die? Deserve to die? Oh yea, I forgot, you consider Israelis terrorist as well. But what can one expect from a person working on getting his citizenship from the same country he puts down every chance he gets. It seems that your ideas of how to fix the problems in the Middle East are not too far off from those of the terrorist. Kill them all and sort out the body parts later, or turn them all into black glass, including Israel, as you mentioned before. Way to go, you sure know how to solve problems.
on Aug 15, 2006
Hezbollah and the factions that Hate Israel and the United States are far stronger because they have won the hearts and minds of the average Moslem. This will be just like 1982 when the Israeli attacks CREATED Hezbollah. Those of you that support King George are truly in a different world. Today Bush was bragging about how he fought the Iraq War properly. Iraq is a DISASTER. NO MATTER WHEN we leave, that country will dissolve into a FULL SCALE CIVIL WAR that we will have made possible! The support for Bush and his policies drops EVERY DAY. He just keeps going in the same direction that created all the problems for our country. I hope the voters tell Bush and his GOP idiots that the game is over in November.
on Aug 15, 2006
Who was suckered into walking into the worst PR disaster in the history of the IDF?


Israel cares very little about PR and quite a bit about protecting their borders.

Who has used 30,000 men and however many tanks and warplanes to progress less than 20 miles into a nation against which no war has been declared, has suffered casualties far higher than it was ever dreamed was possible, and still has not secured its stated aims?


Loss of life is less important than protection of state. As for declaration of war, the two countries have officially been at a state of war since 1949. Aside from ceasefires there has never been a peace treaty/accord between the two, so yes, war was declared - 57 years ago.

You think the French are going to 'secure' the border? The French? As for the Lebanese 'Army' - you might as well call it Hezbollah On Parade.



Well if they don't 'secure' the border then Israel will have a great reason to kill a few frogs. That will make a great many Americans happy. I'd wager they'll be cheering the loudest.

Have you actually followed any of this story, or are you simply making it up in the shape you'd like it to have as you go along? An entire generation of Lebanese youth has been recruited to Hezbollah's standard - it's standing in the Arab world has never been higher.


As have an entire generation of Israeli youth been reruited to the standard of the IDF.
on Aug 15, 2006
leave it to Col Klink to again go off topic and post an irrelevant and stupid tirade. Thank god he does not pollute my blog or I would have to black list him. He is so monotonous.
on Aug 15, 2006
"Who won the War? Israel or Hezbollah" was the question of this Blog

My post #22 gave my answer - Hezbollah. Can you not READ Dr.Guy? You just do not like my answer or the reality of the situation!
on Aug 16, 2006
Thinking the worst of then Moslem world is not sound politics nor is it a recipie for lasting peace. Moslems too seek an honorable peace in the Middle East which Israel and USA are thwarting.

I'm afraid there is precious little evidence of that. How I wish you were correct rather than a deluded apologist. I don't "think the worst of the Moslem world," Bahu, I just think the worst of the worst of the Moslem world.

My... what a collection of racist vituperation I've stumbled on here.

Rather comical, Emporer, considering what followed.
on Aug 16, 2006
Hell, why would you even pick France of all countries? Did you post this just so this question would not be left out?


shoulda used somethin besides your history book to shim up that table dude.
on Aug 16, 2006
I do not know if Israel or Hezbollah won but I do know who lost-- Lebanon!


dead on.
on Aug 16, 2006
My post #22 gave my answer - Hezbollah. Can you not READ Dr.Guy? You just do not like my answer or the reality of the situation!


And as per "usual", you went all anal on us and posted this do-do.

Those of you that support King George are truly in a different world. Today Bush was bragging about how he fought the Iraq War properly. Iraq is a DISASTER. NO MATTER WHEN we leave, that country will dissolve into a FULL SCALE CIVIL WAR that we will have made possible! The support for Bush and his policies drops EVERY DAY. He just keeps going in the same direction that created all the problems for our country. I hope the voters tell Bush and his GOP idiots that the game is over in November


which had absolutely NOTHING to do with the question asked. Just spewing some more of your ignorant "HATE BUSH" rhetoric!
on Aug 16, 2006
The fallout of the war is going to be heavy for both Israel and the USA. With the Iraq war going aimlessly from one bloody slaughter to another, the fact that the much touted Democracy in Iraq, as we had all along maintained, is bogus and a criminal act of fooling the world. The American public has got tired of the war and would like to cut their losses and the defeat of Liberman shows just how serious the people are.

In Israel, the Kadima Party which won at best a slender victory thought thzat it could ride on the US war on terror in order to consolidate itself internally. The calculations have gone wrong and it is likely that the Kadima Party will not be able to ride out the fiure storm of criticism that will ensue. The political leadership of the war was so poor that even pro-Kadima Knesset members are asking serious questions. Olmert was not able to achieve a single objective though he used the US supplied arms and bombs with gay abandon. The reputation of the US has taken a serous blow and to that extent USA too has lost.
on Aug 16, 2006
drmiler

You go beyond the specific issues of Blogs ALL THE TIME. I did answer the question and then added my comments which are related to the larger issues of the violence in that area.
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