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Is the occupation in danger ofcollapsing
Published on September 25, 2007 By Bahu Virupaksha In Current Events
The fundamental rule of civilised warfare is that civilians are not targetted in a war.. The logic of "collateral damage" leads to large scale violations of the rules of combat. I agree that the fact of terrorism has made some, not all, rules iirrelevant. In Iraq, the USA has been using baits to kill Iraqis. By planting "baits" and killing all those who bite the bait, USA has made a major tactical mistake, because this kind of unethical warfare will not discourage but only encourage counter tactics and as the rising death toll makes clear, the militants in Iraq have been extremely inventive in their tactics. For instance whenv the US troops started going out in humvees, the Iraqi rigged up anti tank shells capable of penetrating the thick sheel protecting plates.

It is good that the DoD has woken up to the reality of the baiting assasins and has ordered a court of enquiry.

Comments
on Sep 25, 2007
War is not supposed to be "fair".

As it stands we are giving the enemy the advantage by constantly handicapping and second-guessing ourselves. If we are going to be over there, we need to fight to win.
on Sep 25, 2007
And to which war do you refer where civilian casualties didn't happen?

Once again you take the side of terrorists and spew their propaganda for them. When will you start pointing your stinky little finger at them and their attrocities?
on Sep 25, 2007
"The fundamental rule of civilised warfare is that civilians are not targetted in a war.. "

Which is why it is so important to win the war against the terrorists, who ALWAYS target civilians and hide among them.

on Sep 25, 2007
But Andrew, Bahu is only horrified when Americans kill civilians... when the terrorists do, he makes excuses for them.
on Sep 25, 2007
Hm... since Americans don't kill civilians quite as often as the terrorists, Bahu can certainly enjoy this war more than I.
on Sep 27, 2007
War is hell.
on Sep 29, 2007
As it stands we are giving the enemy the advantage by constantly handicapping and second-guessing ourselves


This is a very generous assessment of the situation.[

quote]Once again you take the side of terrorists and spew their propaganda for them

I am not taking the side of terrorists at all. But I do manintain as I have said that by discarding the rules of engagement the US military is increasinly been seen as a force operating out side of the law.

I don't GIVE A DAMN about any Iraqi, civilian or not (and who can even tell the difference?) who finds a large chunk of their brains suddenly missing because they bent down to pick up some bait...bait which only someone interested in participating in the hostilities would pick up in the first


A simple solution would be to just get out of Iraq. In fact USA should not have entered Iraq and created such a mega sized mess out there.

Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2007But Andrew, Bahu is only horrified when Americans kill civilians... when the terrorists do, he makes excuses for them


I have always condemned the Terrorists for killing just as often.

War is hell.

Absolutely correct. And hence the need for PEACE,.

on Sep 29, 2007
I am not taking the side of terrorists at all. But I do manintain as I have said that by discarding the rules of engagement the US military is increasinly been seen as a force operating out side of the law.


So when will you ever condemn the terrorist and insurgents for their attrocities and infractions of the "rules of engagement". You hold the U.S. to a standard, but make exuses for the enemy... which tells me that you stand up for the enemy.
on Sep 30, 2007
And the terrorists are increasingly being seen as "a force operating" inside "the law" when they blow up innocent civilians?

You are a pathetic apologist, Bahu - which qualifies you for a job with just about any major paper in the US in about 2 minutes flat, especially the NYT. If the sky ain't falling, the papers ain't selling, so what do the papers tell us, ad nauseam? Surprise!... the sky is falling.
on Oct 02, 2007
This is a very generous assessment of the situation.


What you really meant to say was this is 100% true.

I am not taking the side of terrorists at all. But I do manintain as I have said that by discarding the rules of engagement the US military is increasinly been seen as a force operating out side of the law.


Hah, that's a laugh. Grill the good guys for bending the rules a bit but praise the criminals sticking to their inhumane ways. And you don't side with terrorist?

A simple solution would be to just get out of Iraq. In fact USA should not have entered Iraq and created such a mega sized mess out there.


Sure, and take a current mega sized mess and turn it into the Mother Of All Messes. then we will never hear the end of your crying.

I have always condemned the Terrorists for killing just as often.


Just as often. For a moment there I could have sworn you were implying that American soldiers kill as many innocent civilians as these terrorist do. Wow, I was completely unaware we were shooting at civilians in the hopes of killing the hidden terrorist amongst them. Maybe we were dumb enough to wait this long to have done it. We would have been done already. Maybe if we accept to be just as bad as the terrorist, Bahu would give us a break and side with us for once.
on Oct 02, 2007

A simple solution would be to just get out of Iraq. In fact USA should not have entered Iraq and created such a mega sized mess out there.


Excuse me, but who exactly came down with a letter from G-d and established that, just by definition apparently, Iraq was NOT a mega sized mess before the invasion?

Iraq under Saddam:

http://www.9neesan.com/massgraves/

http://halapja.9neesan.com/

Iraq currently:

http://www.michaeltotten.com/

(Including pictures of children happily celebrating the American forces that some Democrats want to withdraw.)

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001066.html

Note the fake American shops like Miran burgers. These people love everything America.

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001061.html

Look at those pictures and tell me again about the mess.

http://www.michaeltotten.com/archives/001055.html

And any left-winger who can look at what Saddam did to the Kurds and what Kurdistan looks line now and is able to tell me again how America created a mess must feel weird.

The invasion has given those parts of Iraq that want peace (Kurdistan) a chance to become rich and civilised and it has transformed the rest of the country from a place that needed mass graves to cope with the deaths to a place that journalists can apparently report negative things about without dying.

The difference between George Bush and a left-winger is that George Bush can look at pictures of the gas attacks and today's Kurdistan and feel good about the changes his invasion brought.

What can left-wingers be proud of? Their alliance with France and Russia and the other countries who sold Saddam the weapons he used against Iranians, Kurds, Shi'ites, and Kuwaitis? Their demands that Saddam be allowed to continue slaughter his people? What exactly is so great about pacifism, considering the results?
on Oct 02, 2007
Leaving Iraq to the terrorists would be just as morally wrong as leaving Iraq to Saddam.

And it is being proposed by the same people who proposed leaving Iraq to butcher of Baghdad.

What is it with those people's fascination with denying Iraqis freedom and security?
on Oct 02, 2007
A simple solution would be to just get out of Iraq. In fact USA should not have entered Iraq and created such a mega sized mess out there.


See, you consider the US surrendering in Iraq to be "the simple solution", but you don't say that about Iran, Syria, Al Qaeda, The Taliban or any of the factions fighting against us.

Again, you take sides. Which is your right, of course, but at least have the courage of your convictions to stand admit it.
on Oct 03, 2007

See, you consider the US surrendering in Iraq to be "the simple solution",


Don't forget that for many people in Iraq it would also be the final solution.