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A Dangerous Policy
Published on June 5, 2008 By Bahu Virupaksha In Politics

Barack Obama seemed to be making all the right noices, well, until he clinched the Democratic Party nomination. The speech given  before the AIPAC yesterday came as a huge surprise to me. I did not expect him to break the traditional frienship with Israel, but I did not expect him to sign on to the extreme right wing interpretation of Israeli-US relations. Obama was of course courting the powerful jewish American vote and we are all realistic or cynical enough to understand that the ocassion called for a strident reaffirmation of the traditional US policy. And given Sen John Mccain's carping on this issue, Senator Obama had to rachet up the rhetoric. But his policy statement is really alarming. Let me expalin why.

The road map to which the US is a party envisages a viable Palestenian state living in peace and security with Israel. Israel is one of the few countries that has not published its official boundries. Will Golan Heights be returned to Syria. Will Sheba Farms  be returned to Lebabon> These questions remain to be answered. Further, is Israel willing to withdraw to the 1967 boundry, the only solution that seems acceptable to Arab publoc opinion. Obama did not say a word about the contentious issues: instead he waxed eloquently about "tough diplomay" which he equated with statecraft. I think giving Israel a carte blanhe ibn the region, as Obama has proposed, wiill not help the cause of peace in the Middle East and it certainly will not help Israel. USA maust paly the role the Bismark played in the Congress of Berlin in 1877 in order to achieve peace.

The tough rhrtoric of Barack Obama, much tougher than John Maccain's, means that he is willing to give Israel veto power over its Arab neighnors. The road to peace, like apostle Paul's passes through Damascus. Obama seems to have forgotten that. To quote his own words "somewhre along the road to the nomination he has forgotten his own principles."

Iran and Iraq are different issues altogether. The mistake Bush made in Iraq was that he bought Paul Wolfowitz's line that the Middle East can be restructured with the removal of Saddam Hussein. We all know how foolish that assumption was and Iraq has become the singe most impoertant issue in this election. Barack Obama would be more realistic if he did not make tall claims about doing "everything in his power" to stop  Iran from getting the nuclear weapons. Is he sayinmg that he will nuke tTheran if Iran is close to acquing nuclear weapons. Is this a realistic policy. Rhetoric apart, we have come to expect statemenship from Barack Obama not Rambo like bombast. His "tough diplomacy" is not like Theofre Roosevelt's policy of walikg softly while carrying a big stick. Bluff and bluster have no palce in a post Iraq US foreigh policy.

I do agree with the argument that Israel's legitimate right to existence and security are non negotiable. However, I do not see how backing Israel's aggressive policy of what even the former US president Jimmy Carter has called "apartheid" will help in bringing about peace. Hamas is a foece to reckon with in the region like Hezbollah and it is naive to think that if USA does not negotiate with them, these forces will just disappear: take a long days journey into night.

 


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on Jun 19, 2008

The only side that has given is the Israelis.

The Palestenians are not an "imagined community":they exist and have right to a collective existence as envisaged by the 2 state solution to which YSA at least nominally adheres. The withdrawal from the West Bank that you allude to, perhaps, is not giving. The Intifada left Israel with few options.

on Jun 19, 2008
Smoothseas
There are republican as well as as democratic Jewish lobby groups. Or maybe better stated as Pro-Israeli lobbies. So if u were say running in the GOP primary and the Pro-Israeli lobby didn't like your position they would certainly do something about it.


There are probably democrat and republican KKK lobbies as well - but hardly influential. To be influential, you have to bring something to the table. Sadly, the Jewish (or pro-Israeli) lobbies bring nothing to the republicans. You dont get if you do not give.

Bahu
The Palestenians are not an "imagined community":they exist and have right to a collective existence as envisaged by the 2 state solution to which YSA at least nominally adheres. The withdrawal from the West Bank that you allude to, perhaps, is not giving. The Intifada left Israel with few options.


I did not call them "imagined" nor deny their existance. Yet you and others want Israel to "give". I merely pointed out 2 things:
1. They have given
2. The palestinians have not.
So show me the error of both statements. Simply put, that is the big sticking point in your argument, since you cannot.

on Jun 19, 2008
To be influential, you have to bring something to the table. Sadly, the Jewish (or pro-Israeli) lobbies bring nothing to the republicans. You dont get if you do not give.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,53785,00.html

How about an old article from the Fox "Think Tank" about the issue. Looks like you have misspoken. I can find plenty of information from a wide variety of sources partisan and bipartisan. They bring plenty to the table particularly in an era of the swing state and close elections.


on Jun 19, 2008
How about an old article from the Fox "Think Tank" about the issue. Looks like you have misspoken. I can find plenty of information from a wide variety of sources partisan and bipartisan. They bring plenty to the table particularly in an era of the swing state and close elections.


Pretty good opinion piece. Sounds like someone with an agenda against the lobby is trying to convince others of their paranoia. However, it would be hard to call an opinion piece conclusive evidence. I stand by my opinion.
on Jun 19, 2008
Sounds like someone with an agenda against the lobby is trying to convince others of their paranoia.


Which is fine. There is nothing wrong with opinion pieces. My opinions are based on looking at the opinions of both sides of an issue. The problem is when someone is so one sided that they can't see through the propaganda and look at what is really happening. Israel is certainly one our best allies in the region if not the best. That is very hard to argue against, and that situation alone creates a lot of influence.
on Jun 19, 2008
Israel is certainly one our best allies in the region if not the best. That is very hard to argue against, and that situation alone creates a lot of influence.


I agree and that is probably a greater influence than a lobby. One tends to treat friends better than enemies.
on Jun 20, 2008
agree and that is probably a greater influence than a lobby


Its' the pro israel lobby we are talking about so their influence is derived from the reality of Israel being such a good ally.
on Jun 20, 2008
Its' the pro israel lobby we are talking about so their influence is derived from the reality of Israel being such a good ally.


What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I tend to think that the lobby is there to keep America from abandoning them. Now that gets into an interesting area. As the republicans are naturally pro Israel (call it America Centric and all), the lobby has little effect. As democrats tend to be less so, they must exert greater influence on them to achieve the same ends.

If we are both going to the same place, does that mean one of us has to be following the other? or just that we both arrive at the same place, independent of how we got there?
on Jun 21, 2008

USA is an important power in world politics and one hope it will throw the weight of its considerable influence on the side of peace and stability. Israel cannot be gfiven veto power over US policies in the region and therefore the road to peace as I have said earlier, like Pauls passes through Damascus.

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