There is no evidence that 9/11 was planned or executed by anyone in Iraq!

Gene -

There is no evidence that President Bush ever said that was the case. He has said repeatedly that the Iraqi government had no direct involvement in the 9/11 plot. He has said, and correctly, that Saddam's regime was an obstacle to succeeding in the war on terrorism in general. You, and others of like mind, keep accusing him of something which never happened - he never blamed Iraq or Saddam for 9/11. That Saddam's regime lauded the 9/11 attackers as heroes is a fact. That members of Al Qaeda were offered encouragement, support, medical care and safe refuge, among other things, is a fact. That Saddam was playing the UN for the fool that it is in an effort to refill his treasury and finagle his way to reconstituting his arsenal is a fact. That allowing Afghanistan & Iraq to remain safe breeding grounds for terrorists, unchallenged, was not in the interests of the US or of stability in the Middle East is a fact. That the Madrid train bombing has been the only successful major terrorist act outside the Middle East since 9/11 is a fact. That free elections have been held in Afghanistan is a fact. That free elections for an interim government in Iraq have been held is a fact. That progress to completion of an Iraqi constitution continues is a fact. That Syria has been forced out of Lebanon by a Lebanese democratic movement is a fact. That Libya has renounced terrorism and abandoned its nuclear weapons program is a fact. That even Egypt has taken tentative steps toward democratic reforms is a fact. That Israel & the Palestinian Authority are closer to a resolution of their differences than ever before is a fact.

That small numbers of terrorist infiltraters & jihadists are blowing themselves up regularly and killing innocent Iraqis in the process is a fact. That this consititutes an "increase in terrorism" is false.

When facts, as opposed to emotionalism, are considered, there is ample cause for optimism. But optimism is not the currency of the left or of the lusting media. The incessant drumbeat of pessimism over the past 6-9 months needed to be rebutted and President Bush did that effectively, whether the left likes what he had to say or not.

Cheers,
Daiwa

"Liberals will be liberals....you can't change them."....

Ok, having now done a little homework here is something that needs to be said...

Ted, I owe you an apology.

For one I didn't know that you had already been in the service, and two, that you were now disabled.

Open mouth, insert foot, chew.

Had I known what your circumstances were I wouldn't have taken my post as far as I did. Being a newcomer here I saw what I percieved as someone being picked on and lept to his defense without knowing all of the facts beforehand. It was wrong of me to take it in the direction that I did without knowing all of the facts first.

So for that, I do apologize.

Bahu, I know you're right, also. These fools will get it some day. Maybe.

Thank Yoyu. There are few who understand the human suffering the US invasion has caused.

It is certainly unrealistic to think that the Occupation can last for a long time i.e one more year. The US public is already getting tired of the blood letting that is going on. By not having an exit strategy Bush and the Bushmen are only perpetuating a gross error either intentionally caused or unintended.

Ok, having now done a little homework here is something that needs to be said... Ted, I owe you an apology. For one I didn't know that you had already been in the service, and two, that you were now disabled. Open mouth, insert foot, chew.

Not a problem BigDaddyCool. I too have had more than my share of Tootsie Tea Parties due to a knee jerk reaction. Apology accepted.

Besides, since the terrorists have been killing Americans and other westerners since the 70s, and you curse the name of the man who decided to quit laying back and taking it, how other than "rape me baby" do you see no reaction at all? If you're not willing to stand up to an attacker, you

I am certainly not justifying any attack on civillians. Nowhere have I ever said or will ever say that attacks on Americans or for that matter non combatants of other part of the world is justified. The issue specifically is Iraq. Now Bush and his Bushmen took the USA to war over the possession of WMD.They have not been found. Two, the 9/11 Commission did not find Saddam Hussain inolved in the Twin Tower Attacks. Saddam is a perfectly undesirable character but he was not involved in the 9/11 attacks.Now by using the 9/11 as a pretext for invading Iraq, Bush and the Bushmen have created a perfect breeding ground for terrorists in the Middle East. This is a consequence of the Bush invasion not the cause.

Trust me, Bahu hasn't been threatened into silence, we've been hearing his drivel for quite some time now, in spite of the hostile reaction it usually generates, he carries on, alive and well

If you do not agree does it become "drivel"Little _Whip.In fact the vast majority of the US population is against the War not just me.

, and they aren't bound by the first amendment, either, they can banish on a whim, though I've never seen it done.

The reason why JU is popular all over the world is because there is more freedom of expression in this site than many others. Furthermore a dissenting post is hardly reason for silencing someone. I may disagree with you, but I will defend your right to express yourself.

They have not been found. Two, the 9/11 Commission did not find Saddam Hussain inolved in the Twin Tower Attacks.

--and yet during their investigation they never once to my knowledge disclosed their sources, the intell they used was suddenly perfect (they used foreign and us intell, which ironically was faulty cause of 'no' WMD's)...hmmm, perhaps...never mind...

By not having an exit strategy Bush and the Bushmen are only perpetuating a gross error either intentionally caused or unintended.

Exit strategies are not made public, do you even understand that concept?

In fact the vast majority of the US population is against the War not just me.

Proof? And don't quote a media poll of 1000 Americans.

It is certainly unrealistic to think that the Occupation can last for a long time i.e one more year. The US public is already getting tired of the blood letting that is going on. By not having an exit strategy Bush and the Bushmen are only perpetuating a gross error either intentionally caused or unintended.

No I'm sorry! We/they are NOT! Everyone goes on about the 58% that do not agree with the war. But what none of you are looking at is included in that 58% are a LOT of people that think we're not doing "enough" butt kicking or the people that think we should have turned Iraq into a "glass" parking lot.

BigDaddyCoolID , godd reply. Nothing I hate more than bullies and people who cofuse ranting with debating. After your reply I have nothing to add. Other than to say disagreeing with war is not cowardice, as a matter of fact, bullies are cowards.
As for the war whether we agree or not we are there and now we have to stay and finish the job. We are now in a situation where we are damned if we do and damned if we don't.