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WHAT THE WEST CAN DO
Published on February 6, 2006 By Bahu Virupaksha In Politics
A few weeks back a Danish newspaper published a picture of Prophet Momammad, peace be on his name. The cartoon showed the Prophet wearing a bomb in his turban. The Moslem world was just aghast at this irreverential portrayal of the Prophet. Since then the fires have been raging in Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan and Afghanistan. The Western embedded media says that it is a clash between Freedom of Expression and an increasingly intolerant Islam. This view is wrong because there are laws in all Western countries against Blasphemy and Racism. No one can claim the right to publish a cartton dishonoring Jesus Christ and claim that freedom of rxpression protects him/her. Therefore the principle of Freedom of the Press or ERxpression is not involved. The Wesrern Media is claiming unto itself the Right to dishonor Islam in the name of Democratic Freedoms. As Oliverm Wendell Holmes once said. you cannot shout fire in a crowded theatre and then claim that the act and its consequenes are covered by the First Ammendment. The present case is similar.

There is a strong feeling in the Islamic world that the West is trying to undermine Islam as a religion and civilization by constantly depicing it as a fundamenmtalist, aggressive, lawless force. The anger that is spilling on to the streets is a spontaneous expression of the frustrations that people feel when their sacred symbols are cynically violated.

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on Feb 06, 2006
Seems like JU's local klan is seetting in more hate than most Muslims could even dream of.


Mano,

I have defended you in the past, but when you accuse me and others (I am in EXACTLY the same position on this as the "klan members" you describe, so your snide remarks hit me as well) of being in line with the KKK because we defend the concept of free speech, you have gone too far. Rest assured, mano, that if the jihadists ever get their way, they won't care that you kissed their tuchusses all these years...they'll blow you up with the rest of us.

Maybe you should write a blog entitled "how to lose someone's respect entirely in 20 words or less"
on Feb 06, 2006
Gid there is only one that I was referring to..and it's not you.
on Feb 06, 2006
Like I said, though, she and I hold precisely the same position on this...so a criticism of her on this position is a criticism of me as well.

I would also like to point out the hypocrisy of repeatedly dredging up one's past sins while maintaining the philosophy of negotiating with a state that for many years was headed by one of the most prolific terrorists in history (Arafat). Why is it that Arafat can redeem himself in your eyes, yet one individual that you don't even know personally cannot?
on Feb 06, 2006
I can personally attest to the fact that Caracarn1 is a card-carrying Klan nutjob! Oh, and he eats babies for lunch!


*The above is a joke for those among us who are humor-impaired
on Feb 06, 2006
Oh, and he eats babies for lunch!


I hear they taste of chicken. (Dress to Kill)

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Feb 06, 2006
Yum Yum

GrandMarshalWizardryallupinyourass
on Feb 06, 2006
If the Muslim nation wants to stop being the "joke" of the world, it should use its 1.6 billion members and STAND UP against terrorists. Turning them in, killing them, at the very least making more of an effort to condemn the acts.....whatever.

Then the world might stop laughing.
on Feb 06, 2006
Oh and as for "What the west can do."

It's not our mess...the Muslim faith created these nut jobs so it needs to deal with it.

But we CAN kill them when they bring it. I don't think that will be too much of a problem. (Except when they run and hide in their little holes like cowards.)
on Feb 06, 2006
Oh and as for "What the west can do."

It's not our mess...the Muslim faith created these nut jobs so it needs to deal with it.

But we CAN kill them when they bring it. I don't think that will be too much of a problem. (Except when they run and hide in their little holes like cowards.)


I say, "Amen, brother. Can I get another?"

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Feb 06, 2006
" Seems like JU's local klan is seetting in more hate than most Muslims could even dream of."


I had commented the most around the time that statement was made, so I guess he's talking about me. Between the clan stuff and 'bushtards' it's obvious that manopeace isn't really anyone's friend unless they agree with him.

Anyway...

I want to say that I don't like the cartoons. Had I been the editor I wouldn't have printed them, not because they are offensive, but because they are honestly poor quality and make little or no statements. As far as offending Muslims, I believe that offending people is an untouchable right. The INSTANT offending people becomes illegal the government can repress the people by making it illegal to offend THEM. A good example is Venezuala, where it is now illegal to show disrespect for the President.

I am an "Infidel". I didn't invent the term, and Islamic talking heads have referred to me as such, lumped in a collective, geographic set of "Infidels", all my life. Not counting the "troublemakers", what does the Islamic religion say about "Infidels"? How is the word used in popular Islamic culture?

Will Muslims find it understandable if I decided to start burning embassies when it said that "Infidels" should be killed? You cannot liken a turban to a bomb, but what happens when America and Americans are likened to "Satan"? Would they shrug and say "We asked for it" when we respond to the "Death to America" rhetoric by storming through Arab neighborhoods?

Nope, they'd be mad about that, too. This is a one-sided respect. We tolerate being likened to devils, and all the anti-semitic stuff we have to hear, I would think it would be a bargain for them to tolerate a cartoon every now and then. In terms of offensiveness I think they get the better end of the bargain.
on Feb 06, 2006
The Islamics are "seething with anger" and resentment because they believe, as do many Jews and Christians, that Father Abraham banished Ishmael and Haggar to the desert in favor of Issac. They've been overly sensitive to any slight and insult, perceived or real, ever since.

Funny how the world press, which usually responds to Islamic unrest with kid gloves and vast understanding and rationalization, responded to this one.
They take umbridge at the freedom of the press, respond in their usual way, and suddenly Islam is a threat.
Like the rest of us didn't know that already, and for thirty years, at that.
on Feb 06, 2006
Seems like JU's local klan is seetting in more hate than most Muslims could even dream of


Sorry, but that's bullshit. I'm going to have to raise the bullshit flag on that statement. I know who you're talking about, and she hasn't said anything worse than what I've said.

You seem to have quite a bit of hatred too. Nice to see you down on our level for a change.
on Feb 06, 2006
It’s interesting how so many of the right-wingers here at JU are speaking out against the Muslim culture of violence and hatred when 97% of the Iraqis we “liberated” from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein are Muslims, many with the same tendency towards hatred and violence. With the current cost of the Iraq war approaching 240 BILLION dollars and costs when we’re finished with this mess estimated at 2 TRILLION dollars, not to mention all the casualties, what the hell are we doing over there?
on Feb 06, 2006
You'd rather we spoke out for the Muslim culture of violence and hatred, Ben?

And if you really think what we did in Iraq and the senseless violence in response to a perceived insult from a cartoon are somehow equivalent, you have a reality perception problem of major proportions, perhaps brought on by cranio-rectal inversion.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Feb 06, 2006

It’s interesting how so many of the right-wingers here at JU are speaking out against the Muslim culture of violence and hatred when 97% of the Iraqis we “liberated” from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein are Muslims, many with the same tendency towards hatred and violence.


Yes, I suppose it must be interesting for you.

(By the way, you forgot to put "tyranny" in sarcasm quotes. Your complete and utter disrespect for other people's lives and humanity in general didn't quite show as clearly as it usually does.)
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