Like it makes a difference?

They hate because they are, at best, mediocre (J. P. Sartre).

"JERUSALEM, Jan. 4 (Xinhua) -- Hamas has eased demands on a ceasefire with Israel as the operation of Israeli army in Gaza Strip entered its ninth day, head of Israel's Shin Bet security agency said Sunday."

Know what the translation is?

Hamas is getting the crap kicked out of it (thank you G-d and Tzahal).

No.....not until they have been reduced to surrender and recognition of Israel and it's right to exist in peace.

That's impossible!

Military successes against Hamas only strengthen Hamas. That's what we learned from Arty.

I look forward to them becoming really, really strong, then. LOL.

Hamas recently complained that Iran remained so quiet over this battle.

Seems like Iran dropped the losers.

But France used the opportunity to get back on the good side of the terrorists.

Fallacy #1: Hamas is bombing kindergarden, they are, deliberatly, targetting civilian targets.

Think about it for a minute. They HAVE to resist. They see themselves as an oppressed people by a dominative nation (as they ARE) and want to fight back (isn't the duty of every citizen to rise up against oppressors?). But what means to they have left?

Not much except throwing rockets. Primitive and crude, "fire and forget" rockets with minimal guidance control. People in this thread have said that "they even have timing device to launch the rocket while they are away". Duh, it's called a "fuse". One of the basic in bomb technology. And until they start having high-tech weaponry except what college students could come up with homemade explosives ('cause those Qassad aren't much more advanced than the homemade rockets made for children).

These rockets don't have guidance system. The best you can even do is aim and hope. What can they aim, when you are about 20 kilometers away from anything? I doubt very much Israel give Hamas the location of their military installation. The only (ONLY) thing remaining are cities.

Even if Israel were to reveal the location of their military installation to Hamas, I doubt they would start firing there. And why should they? It would probably be either decoy, or a blatant lie.

So, if you get down to it, you can't blame any resistance fighter (who's right to resist is enshrined in the Human Rights) for doing the only thing he can do to resist.

Fallacy #2: Israel isn't treating the Gaza Strip "that bad"

Israel enforced a blockade of supplies in the Gaza strip for months. No fuel, no food, no medical supplies. They restrict heavily any kind of media access as they wish, so you will be more likely to hear in detail Israel's side of the story, since they have huge censorship policies toward what is said on their territory, even when it comes to foreign media.

Seriously, one side is in total control. I don't give a damn about a country that has absolute control over a territory. I have zero sympathy for the Israeli who are living in the cities bombed and get occasionnally injured, but their main worry is fear. They complain that they are developping psychological trouble. HOW DO YOU THINK THE PEOPLE IN GAZA ARE FEELING?

We talked about what, 150, 160 rockets fired from Gaza (numbers taken from memory)? You have any idea how many more shells and missiles and grenades and mortars were fires in Gaza in the past days? (not really, guess who refuses to say). With those people who don't have access to any sort of medical supplies, the state is crumbling and beginning to collapse. The rule of law is becoming weaker and weaker.

I realise people got killed on the side of the Israeli, and I am sad that it happened. But it's a long shot between grieving for those victims and demonizing Hamas. These people are trying to rally their supporter in a (justified) defence against Israel. Have you seen people in WW2 calling for "Let's fight the Nazi until they give up"? NO. In war, you rally by saying you will crush you ennemy. That's how you inspire your soldiers and give them faith in themselves, because you tell them you will win, and you will win totally.

The way I see it, Israel is in control. They aren't becoming weaker, and they seem to want to have the occupied population to bow down to them and accept the yoke without any protest. And anything that is aimed at fighting that attitude is decried as rascist or terrorism.

And one more thing: if you have Israel firing rockets inside the Gaza strip to stop smugglers, is it qualified a breach of the truce?

'Cause that's what caused Hamas to stop the truce. You really think Hamas simply started firing Qassads for no other reason than they enjoy seeing flashy explosion? They aren't that stupid.

So, Israel said that it wasn't a breach of the truce. Hamas said that it was. Who's right is irrelevant, but it's not just a stupid technically summoned by Islamic zealots who want to bathe in Israeli blood. It's a valid point that should not be dismissed so easily. But Israel being so unilateral, they just didn't cared about the opinion of the other countries who helped negociate the truce, and that's what led to Hamas firing rockets.

Drawing relation between Hamas's position about the breaking of truce and Hitler's view of genocide if downright dishonest intellectually.

Oh I dunno, maybe the Palestinians should ask themselves "why they hate us?".

Isn't that the advice Americans were given when we were attacked?

I can assure you, if Mexico was lobbing missiles at Texas there wouldn't be a Mexico for long.

Personally I dont care how they are feeling, most muslims only respect the butchers knife.  The only muslims such as the Almoravids that showed mercy to those not of the faith were considered ignorant or even heretics in their time.  Even the Almoravids later changed their ways when they lost their *ingnorance*.

Actually, they are.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Meet the anti-war liberal who claims that Jews must be resisted and that bombing kindergardens is the way to do it.

Should be similar to what they put Sderot through, except they don't have bunkers and sirens.

Maybe they'll learn now.

Good point.

I could tell them.

(Although we don't even hate them. That's why Israeli hospitals treat them.)

Given that digging smuggler tunnels is a breach of the truce AND given that during the "truce" Gazans fired MORE (not less or no) rockets at Israel than before, I have to say that is a stupid question.

Incidentally, the tunnels were not hit within Gaza but on the Israel/PLO-controlled border strip with Egypt. Unless there are European border guards there, Israel bomb that border strip as often as she wishes. Just like Hamas can freely murder people within Gaza without breaking a cease-fire with Israel.

1730 during the "truce".

783 the year before.

179 in the year before Hamas took power.

1528 mortar shells during the "truce".

640 the year before.

238 in the year before Hamas took power.

And I don't care how insignificant you find attempts to murder Jews or how justified "resisisting" Jewish schools is. The 1940s are over. You cannot do these things any more without getting burned.

How petty and ignorant of you. what do you know about muslims and islam? Have you lived in their country? How many of them are your friends?

What else do you know beside the actions of their extremists on the newspaper, or the islamophobe blogs around the net?

(Please also count the mortars number)

But from the beginning of the truce in June, up to November 5th, the total was 65.

The firing rose after Israel attacked peoples in Gaza at the november 5th. So, until Israel actually attacked, the people in Gaza (save a few uncontrollable cells) seemed to keep their word about the truce.

So it's a lie saying that Hamas haven't tried to respect the truce, and that they have launched more rockets during the truce than before, since they saw it as Israel breaking it firstly.